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From Philip Quackenbush, August 30, 2010. Time 14:49

Hi, submike,

Does that emoniker mean you're under Mike, as in sodomy or a microphone, that you're a Mike who blongs to Subud, or what? Marcus seems to be speaking from experience in his comments. Is that also the case with yours? Where the founder of the SUBcult was clearly not factual in many things that he said, he did say that it's best to speak from experience, especially when it comes to so-called "spiritual" "knowledge". Your comment seems to be just parroting what he said, rather than something you've experienced. Is that not so? Have you, then, experienced all of the seven "levels" and their supposed seven sub-levels, or perhaps I should say SUBlevels? I personally have come to an understanding of the existence of eight basic "levels", or dimensions or densities of experience, though it's probably more accurate to say that there are an infinite number of them. If Marcus' humor or comments don't appeal to you (or mine), you could perhaps try Lenny Bruce or Paula Poundstone, or, in a pinch, that of the founder of the cult. Whenever one points a finger at someone, there are three other fingers pointing backa at them (so maybe I should shut up now). Enjoy.

Peace, Philip

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From Walter Segall, August 30, 2010. Time 14:36

Oy vay iz mir! I don't know about there being evidence that those with greater spiritual growth are more reluctant to make negative remarks about Subud. I can believe that there are many (besides Halim) who will make negative remarks about the Brotherhood, the helpers, various committee members, possibly even aspects of the Latihan as it is done in Subud centers in USA, but who are inhibbitted from publishing such comments lest someone accuse them being lacking in spiritual growth (whatever that is).