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From bronte, July 31, 2008. Time 22:53

I wish I could see as many contributors here now as formed the first contributions to this site.
I am convinced that there is a great need for clear self-examination of Subud, as it functions in the world now.
If it is a valid, viable training for the human being, let alone the human soul, then it needs some clearer, modern, inviting explanations and dialogue. If not then God know what it needs.

I might also wish to see the younger generation, so keen to have nothing to do with it, make some comments here.
Come on parents, please get you teenagers and pre-thirty year olds to tell the rest of us what they are thinking and doing about "our cult".
Zebedee, are you concerned about the age-divide too?
Us over 60's just might listen and learn, and be useful to the younger ones yet. After all, they get everything for themselves sooner than we think.


From Hassanah Briedis, August 3, 2008. Time 23:6

Thank you Sahlan for moderating, or facilitating, this discussion which evolved into a discussion about the SubudVision site itself and its agenda of free and open discussion about Subud. I have witnessed discussion strings about a range of philosophical issues around matters that relate less and less to Subud itself, but this one that's just taken place is, I believe, of far more relevance to the SubudVision mission (as I understood it).

Hassanah (Briedis)


From Sahlan Diver, August 24, 2008. Time 9:9

Hassanah,

Thanks for the comments. However I didn't see myself in the role of moderating this particular discussion, rather just taking part in it, although in my editorial capacity I am hoping at some point that we will get an article from Zebedee, or from others who are unhappy about various statements that are made on the web site, that will provide a detailed counter-argument. So far, we have only been able to find two authors willing to provide us with such articles.

I agree with what you say about the original Subud Vision mission. At the same time, if we are to promote open debate we have to allow the discussion to go where the wind blows, and this will presunably result in a variety of discussion themes,

Regards,

Sahlan


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