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Comments Received (in reverse chronological order)

From martha, October 18, 2017. Time 21:33

I've been researching a healing modality developed by Solihin Thom called inner Dialogue. I've been looking into this for some time becuse my daughter is a practitioner and I don't fully understand the modality. From what I read about Subud, it seems the modality uses many Subud practices - surrendering to the divine, physical testing, life forces [exactly as in Subud] Anyway, when I asked I was told the modality was not a religion or faith based ..... but it's not science either. When I researched the practices employed by ID, they frequently "surrender to the divine" which seems a lot like Latihan, though the developer of ID said they are completely different. This is causing me cognitive dissonance. All the pieces do not fit together. The healing modality is used by practitioners sometimes to "discover" subconscious traumas and then .... do something with those memories. A lot like psycho-therapy, but not. The practitioners often discover child abuse traumas and my question to Mr. Thom as to any requirements by practitioners to follow child abuse reporting mandates have gone unanswered. So it would help me if someone well versed in Subud would review the Ad Humanitas website and let me know if they think it an off-shoot of Subud and/or if Subud practices are being incorporated into the modality and sold in a lecture series as the business in Oregon is registered to do. Also I was reading something about Subud on facebook and it seems Bapak is viewed as a deity or something like that. Am I off in thinking that? Like I said lots of cognitive dissonance. thanks you martha

From The Editors, June 11, 2014. Time 18:39

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From luminair, June 11, 2014. Time 17:31

I have been receiving emails from Subud Vision for some time now and found today that there was no way of unsubscribing from these emails, which is what I want to do now. It would be the decent thing to do to give others the option to unsubscribe, like all other self and other respecting organisations do with their emails. So I've been forced to block these emails even though that didn't feel absolutely necessary. Please fix this guys and 'get with the program'!

From Tommy, June 16, 2013. Time 2:12

As an ex Subud group member,who has never given up on the wonderful gift of the Latihan,
reading the articles on your site has been a great help. Thank you!
I'm especially grateful for being able to read Husain Chung's 'Still Crazy after All These Years' which refilled me with "Entheos" from beyond the grave. God bless, Husain.

From Editors, March 16, 2013. Time 9:1


We did get it, and were interested in publishing it in our next edition, which may be early summer or mid Autumn, we don't know yet. We replied to you at the time, but sometimes emails get lost in spam filters. We advise anyone else who has communicated with us but received no reply to chase it up with us, as we do try to be prompt replying to emails and article submissions.

From Edward Fido, March 16, 2013. Time 7:20

Hi. Not a complaint: a query. I thought I had despatched an article to you 3/3/13. So far have not heard back. Wondering if you got it. EF

From mingshen, February 6, 2013. Time 16:8

Most of the articles are interesting,instructive. They help me to understand Subud and the latihan better.

From Evan, February 13, 2012. Time 11:0

Opposition to Subud Vision? Not worth it. Some nice things said here - maybe many things not so nice. Mostly way too much thinking so a bit painful to read - better for me to just do latihan - more productive. Sorry if I hurt feelings but you asked.

From Margaret Pevec, February 11, 2012. Time 16:1

You don't have to publish this comment, but I noticed that you mis-attributed the following quote to Nelson Mandela. This is often done, but actually belongs to Marianne Williamson.

"As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others."

From Hubert Spall, February 2, 2012. Time 9:32

Thanks for this site, it is very good that constructive critical writing about Subud has such a well-managed and even-handed home.

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